Curse

Sandman Uk · Jul 29, 2005, 05:59 AM // 05:59

This will be my last post on this subject.

Having posted on many other threads regarding end game longevity for PVE players in Europe. Having now completed game with two different builds finished all the quests,Missions,Bonus,Completed many missions a second time with Guild mate I have come to a stand still and am now finding it real hard to turn Guild Wars on.

I am full on Pve, I have tried PVP but its not for me. What really upsets me is the Favor situation regarding Underworld and Fissure. These are the last areas I have to fully complete. The difficulty level is spot on. But I have to rely on PVP play to access this. Its well mentioned on here regarding Europe having limited favor to enter. Is it that Korea and the Americans are power crazy and feel a need to own the halls where as Europe are pretty laid back?

Question
Why was the the best part of the game for PVE set up that we relied on a PVP group to open it. PVP players have the best of both worlds. But does anyone In the halls after winning really come straight out and go to the temple of ages to access the Underworld. Please take a serious look at these ownership problems for European PVE players and the Underworld.

New free areas due out in the next couple of weeks I hope have the same difficulty levels as Underworld and Fissure. To keep PVE players interested till the next chapter comes along. Please dont make it that simple that PVE players conquer it in a weekend. Or make it easy so has not to upset the low level players who run there.

Its a great game but the longevity for a European PVE player is very poor. Most of the players I know have now moved to the Usa servers to play. I was locked in the Euro servers from the first opening weekend

Long story else I would have gone also. Eventually I can see all the PVE European players emigrating, is that what Anet want. Empty Euro servers and Full Usa servers?

Two months ago I reported the issue with Region Changes and was told by A few Game Masters that it was something that the programers were looking at?? How long will it take to grant one moe move or was this a Fob off?

Maybe the European Pve side of the game is the lowest priority and im just a little voice complaining about it? Is there other European Pve players who are experiencing the same problems I am.

I realise they can't please everyone But surely changing the way we enter Underworld (Pay More makes good Gold Sink 5k) so its open to everyone anytime. I loved the have to ascend update to enter.

Maybe make it so you get one free entry per favor ownership to the Region thats holding the halls???

Sadly I and im sure many others in the same situation will drift off if this issue doesnt change. If it wast that the game is as great as it is I would have drifted a long time ago.

aB- · Jul 29, 2005, 06:12 AM // 06:12

I agree. I do play in the American servers, but there needs to be something to at least help spread the favor around. There should still be some PvP skill to gain the favor, but something that makes it just more than that.

Lagg · Jul 29, 2005, 07:12 AM // 07:12

While I am also sometimes annoyed at the fact that we don't have more favor on European servers (and I'm definitely not the right person to change something about that), I do think that our very limited UW/FoW window makes for a more rewarding game experience.

As someone in my guild said earlier today: when we do get favor, it's like the whole of Europe is celebrating. It makes for an interesting sight (and a massively overcrowded Temple of Ages) and it keeps UW and FoW from becoming easily accessible farming areas.

So take the good with the bad. Let those who wish to farm UW and FoW to death move to America, and leave us with emptier, faster servers in Europe, with an UW and FoW that still gives you a "this is special" feeling, every time you do get to enter.

MCS · Jul 29, 2005, 07:20 AM // 07:20

It's a bonus of the game that must be earned.

Tell valander to start tombing

. I've never beat them mainly because I've never played them and I hardly ever see them winning it anymore.

Shaquira · Jul 29, 2005, 07:30 AM // 07:30

Maybe there is another solution

Now you have to pay 1k gold to enter even if your country has the favor.

Maybe make it so the one with favor can enter for free, and others have to pay to enter. See it as a donation to please the gods temporarily

Fee could even be 2k and still be fair .... i think

Shaquira

chaos dragoon · Jul 29, 2005, 08:17 AM // 08:17

im not so sure as the "laid backisness"(not a real word) of european player more of the lack of them.and i would pay 2k to get into the Fow when my country doesnt have favor and also like the get in free thing when you do have favor.i also think this might lower prices of shards/ecto as every1 would have access 24/7

Sandman Uk · Jul 29, 2005, 06:31 PM // 18:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lagg

As someone in my guild said earlier today: when we do get favor, it's like the whole of Europe is celebrating. It makes for an interesting sight (and a massively overcrowded Temple of Ages) and it keeps UW and FoW from becoming easily accessible farming areas.

I do see that side of the fence regarding UW.

My main issue is I have to rely on PVP play for me to advance in PVE and If you dont like PVP play then its really annoying waiting for Europe to gain favour. Do PVP players have to rely on PVE players doing something in our play to open something for them.

I think not

Make it so we have to go kill a Major boss in a far away section of the map that will then allow us to transfer to the UW as a party???? I wouldnt mind that even.

Least PVE players earned it not PVP

viet · Jul 29, 2005, 08:14 PM // 20:14

The major boss could change every day/hour. you get news of it from runners in lions arch.

then people start racing off to far corners of the map!

Iceciro · Jul 29, 2005, 08:17 PM // 20:17

That would actually be kinda cool. I would like to see the PVE vs PVP balanced out somehow, I want them to rely on us as much as we rely on them. With the advent of Faction, you never have to play or rely on PVE for anything. But we still have to rely on them to win Faction so we can go to FoW / UW and party.

Sandman Uk · Jul 30, 2005, 12:37 PM // 12:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iceciro

you never have to play or rely on PVE for anything. But we still have to rely on them to win Faction so we can go to FoW / UW and party.

Spot On

We the Pve are suffering because someone at Anet thought it would be a good idea.

Anet please comment

Red Sonya · Jul 30, 2005, 12:53 PM // 12:53

I like that the game has a great goal like favor for UW/FOW, it's sad that Euros aren't very good players though and can't hold favor for very long, but, to me that would just increase the challenge to do better to gain more opportunities for UW/FOW and any others they decide to add to the favor list. If there weren't something to gain from HOH tournaments besides fame and rank it would get pretty old and boring pretty fast, but, just keeping favor from Euro and Korea to me is part of the fun of the game. Everyone of course can't be Sir Lancelot, but, it looks like he moved to America.

DFrost · Jul 30, 2005, 01:03 PM // 13:03

If the sales figures that occasionally get posted are correct, Korea-Europe player ratio is 100-1 and USA-Europe 10-1. So it isn't all about europeans "not being good enough".